Who are you known as by your community, your family and your friends?
And how and know that?
When did you come to know who your are know as by your community, your family and your friends?
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some know me by my slave name, mickel (pronounced meh-kell). the rest know me as nat turner. if there was no amerikkka, there would be no me, in the person and spirit of nat turner. i began to come into the person that i am now, when i was about nineteen years old. during that time of my life, the conscious rap group public enemy had an album out called "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back." it was profound, because every song spoke to that part of me that had been oppressed by the bullshit miseducation of the amerikkkan school system. from then on, i began to realize that i was hear on this planet for a certain purpose, to contribute to the liberation of afrikan people by any means necessary.
I apologize for being away from this conversation.
I should be amazed by the responses to the question: "Who are you know as?"
However, I am not.
I generated this conversation to reconfirm for me what was one of the generating concern that lead to the creation of TheBlackList and theMarcusGarveryBBS nearly 16 years ago; that is, we are a people jostling with windmill, that we live in a fanciful world deep in our own heads and out of touch with people as much as we profess to build community and a unity of Africans at home and abroad.
Also as a people we hear and not listen and we read alot and not comprehend and we dare to say we are for trumpet loudly how we are unity and fail to connect to ourselves and that person and those touching us.
Example #1: there are those who sign up and join this NETWORK, n-e-t-w-o-r-k, and in their profile they stated that their intention being here is to NETWORK, n-e-t-w-o-r-k; however, in their profile they fail to introduce themselves or state anything about themselves that would entice anyone but themselves to network with them.
Is this strange?
To me is like going to a dance and standing around hoping that someone won't dance with you - voyeurism.
Example #2: The question of the we, "Who are you know as?" not who you say you are but who does the people around you say that you are.
I also listed some possible questions to assist in arriving at an answer:
Who am I for you?
Who do you know me as?
What can I be dependended on for?
What can I not be depended on for?
What are my strengths?
What are me weaknesses?
What were your first impression of me?
How have I grown since you first me me?
Have I ever disappointed your?
What do people say about me when I am not present? etc, etc..
Everyone asked themselves and create themselves without there community.
They constituted themselves and their IDENTITY.
They confused CHARACTER with IDENTITY.
Who we are in not our INDENTITY.
Does some of us not march up and down railing against the police PROFILING us IDENTIFYING us as our INDENTITY.
However, when you are applying for a job or loan etc who do they want to talk to. Yes, your REFERENCES, your community.
Who you are is really not who you say you are but who you community say you are.
Who you are is who your family, friends and associates know you as and say that you are and who you say you are is the conversation that have it be that way.
To Kwasi,
I am very dissapointed in you that you do not see Roger and Nefertari as "human beings" You are brain washed into believing that we are not what our ancestors are or were. My guest is that you are influenced by anthropology the billion years homosapiens argument. I dare to say if you were being wise you would have arrived at the idea with the long history of homo sapiens, ancestral existence must have been involved, unless you choose not to believe any further than our monkey origin from which present day human beings decended from, according to anthropologists. I dare say you are right that we are what our parents are. Certainly I do not see my parents as homo sapiens and if they are who I am they certainly fit in the begot of God. Hence, I take my history back at least 25 generations and no where in this generation the monkey theory is proven. But I dare say that you are a followerer of what western civilization think of black people and if we do not associate with the American culture and traditions we are not human beings. How sad! Dont you know of the traditions of our fathers?
Nefertari Ahmose.
My brother the Jamaican Rastas know me as the Guyanese interloper who has come to light a fire under the Rastafari Movemant.
I did not choose this path for I could be in Afrika living very comfortably healing my aching body.
I wear this cap proudly in the name of the Hon. Dr. Walter Rodney my Guyanese countryman who the Jamaican Govt made persona non grata. This act alone caused his assassination by the corrupt Indian forces who now run Guyana.
"Keep it "LIT"
Nefertari and Roger,
I say that Who You Are have nothing to do with where you were born, your name, gender and similar inheritance. You did not choose your parents, place of birth and gender.
Who you are has to do with BEING - YOUR BEING, WHO YOU BEING AS A HUMAN-BEING.
And Who you are is a matter of choice and not an outcome of your circumsctances.
Good place to start discovering who your realy are is to ask the people around.
Ask them:
Who am I for you?
Who do you know me as?
What can I be dependended on for?
What can I not be depended on for?
What are my strengths?
What are me weaknesses?
What were your first impression of me?
How have I grown since you first me me?
Have I ever disappointed your?
What do people say about me when I am not present? etc, etc..
These are a few question that will get beyond your identity and uncover who you are - who you BE as a HUMAN-BEING.
Ali Aminifu > KWASI AkyeampongMarch 2, 2009 at 9:49am
Peace to all...Hue-mans,
I first chuckled at this discussion; because I am always re-discovering mySELF. It's a good discussion, to have one, look more within. Who I be, as a human being; is a man of alot of character. I possess the ability, the adaptibility, the humor, the seriousness, the warm-heartedness, of an individual who can help someone in despair. I work with todays' youths in placement. The at-risk youths; the so-called, "Throwaway Kids" in the fosster care system. Who I am; developed me to take on this responsibility, and work. My job, is to teach the children (including, my own), responsibility, and to move on with life. This is who I am, and this is who I am known for. Peace2all...
I am known as "Thuso" (promounced (TOO-so) which means "helper."
That name was given to me by my Northern Sotho friends in South Africa. It came about after living there for three years during a business assignment. My wife and I would spend weekends in the neighboring townships to Pretoria where we lived. During our stay, we helped our housekeeper to send her daughter to college; we helped three communities to build church buildings that served also as community gathering places. We organized the South Africa Outreach Program, a not-for-profit organization, and engaged many of our American friends to provide funds for assistance in other projects. We organize a group of about 30 teenagers to make their very first "once in a lifetime trip" outside of South Africa, and they toured 1o USA cities for about 30 days with a stage play that dramatized the transitioning life in South Africa at the turn of the century.
My new name did not come in isolation. During that same period, my wife earned the name "Mpho" (pronounced mm-PO) which means "gift." She has been a gift to me, as well as all those with whom we have shared our blessings.
When we share the stories of our new friends in Africa with our American friends, they nod in agreement, and some of them have begun to refer to us as Thuso and Mpho, although they have difficulty with the spelling or pronuncation.
Thanks for asking the question. What our African friends helped us to understand is that there is deep and powerful meaning in a name. It represents your meaning to others. And that adds value to someone else's life.
I was named Florence Elaine Rose by my parents, but when it came to be consciousness time I did not find any natural connection with Florence, Italy and though the name Rose goes back to my great-grand-father of Dry Harbour Mountain, St. Ann, Jamaica. I found that they were all of African descent and so naturally and genuinely I could not Function in adulthood without true blood. After my migration to New York in the 1980s a professor from Asante, Dr. G.K. Osei introduced to to the name Nefertari Ahmose and that name was in keeping with what my aunt told me about our family Egyptian connection, so I quickly changed my name by deed poll to Nefertari Abena Ahmose in 1988. My family, friends and community know me both as Florence Elaine Rose and Nefertari Abena Ahmose. I answer to both.
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some know me by my slave name, mickel (pronounced meh-kell). the rest know me as nat turner. if there was no amerikkka, there would be no me, in the person and spirit of nat turner. i began to come into the person that i am now, when i was about nineteen years old. during that time of my life, the conscious rap group public enemy had an album out called "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back." it was profound, because every song spoke to that part of me that had been oppressed by the bullshit miseducation of the amerikkkan school system. from then on, i began to realize that i was hear on this planet for a certain purpose, to contribute to the liberation of afrikan people by any means necessary.
uhuru!
I should be amazed by the responses to the question: "Who are you know as?"
However, I am not.
I generated this conversation to reconfirm for me what was one of the generating concern that lead to the creation of TheBlackList and theMarcusGarveryBBS nearly 16 years ago; that is, we are a people jostling with windmill, that we live in a fanciful world deep in our own heads and out of touch with people as much as we profess to build community and a unity of Africans at home and abroad.
Also as a people we hear and not listen and we read alot and not comprehend and we dare to say we are for trumpet loudly how we are unity and fail to connect to ourselves and that person and those touching us.
Example #1: there are those who sign up and join this NETWORK, n-e-t-w-o-r-k, and in their profile they stated that their intention being here is to NETWORK, n-e-t-w-o-r-k; however, in their profile they fail to introduce themselves or state anything about themselves that would entice anyone but themselves to network with them.
Is this strange?
To me is like going to a dance and standing around hoping that someone won't dance with you - voyeurism.
Example #2: The question of the we, "Who are you know as?" not who you say you are but who does the people around you say that you are.
I also listed some possible questions to assist in arriving at an answer:
Who am I for you?
Who do you know me as?
What can I be dependended on for?
What can I not be depended on for?
What are my strengths?
What are me weaknesses?
What were your first impression of me?
How have I grown since you first me me?
Have I ever disappointed your?
What do people say about me when I am not present? etc, etc..
Everyone asked themselves and create themselves without there community.
They constituted themselves and their IDENTITY.
They confused CHARACTER with IDENTITY.
Who we are in not our INDENTITY.
Does some of us not march up and down railing against the police PROFILING us IDENTIFYING us as our INDENTITY.
However, when you are applying for a job or loan etc who do they want to talk to. Yes, your REFERENCES, your community.
Who you are is really not who you say you are but who you community say you are.
Who you are is who your family, friends and associates know you as and say that you are and who you say you are is the conversation that have it be that way.
KWASI
I am very dissapointed in you that you do not see Roger and Nefertari as "human beings" You are brain washed into believing that we are not what our ancestors are or were. My guest is that you are influenced by anthropology the billion years homosapiens argument. I dare to say if you were being wise you would have arrived at the idea with the long history of homo sapiens, ancestral existence must have been involved, unless you choose not to believe any further than our monkey origin from which present day human beings decended from, according to anthropologists. I dare say you are right that we are what our parents are. Certainly I do not see my parents as homo sapiens and if they are who I am they certainly fit in the begot of God. Hence, I take my history back at least 25 generations and no where in this generation the monkey theory is proven. But I dare say that you are a followerer of what western civilization think of black people and if we do not associate with the American culture and traditions we are not human beings. How sad! Dont you know of the traditions of our fathers?
Nefertari Ahmose.
I did not choose this path for I could be in Afrika living very comfortably healing my aching body.
I wear this cap proudly in the name of the Hon. Dr. Walter Rodney my Guyanese countryman who the Jamaican Govt made persona non grata. This act alone caused his assassination by the corrupt Indian forces who now run Guyana.
"Keep it "LIT"
Dawta Hodesh
Admin
L.P. Howell Foundation
I say that Who You Are have nothing to do with where you were born, your name, gender and similar inheritance. You did not choose your parents, place of birth and gender.
Who you are has to do with BEING - YOUR BEING, WHO YOU BEING AS A HUMAN-BEING.
And Who you are is a matter of choice and not an outcome of your circumsctances.
Good place to start discovering who your realy are is to ask the people around.
Ask them:
Who am I for you?
Who do you know me as?
What can I be dependended on for?
What can I not be depended on for?
What are my strengths?
What are me weaknesses?
What were your first impression of me?
How have I grown since you first me me?
Have I ever disappointed your?
What do people say about me when I am not present? etc, etc..
These are a few question that will get beyond your identity and uncover who you are - who you BE as a HUMAN-BEING.
Try it!!!
KWASI
I first chuckled at this discussion; because I am always re-discovering mySELF. It's a good discussion, to have one, look more within. Who I be, as a human being; is a man of alot of character. I possess the ability, the adaptibility, the humor, the seriousness, the warm-heartedness, of an individual who can help someone in despair. I work with todays' youths in placement. The at-risk youths; the so-called, "Throwaway Kids" in the fosster care system. Who I am; developed me to take on this responsibility, and work. My job, is to teach the children (including, my own), responsibility, and to move on with life. This is who I am, and this is who I am known for. Peace2all...
That name was given to me by my Northern Sotho friends in South Africa. It came about after living there for three years during a business assignment. My wife and I would spend weekends in the neighboring townships to Pretoria where we lived. During our stay, we helped our housekeeper to send her daughter to college; we helped three communities to build church buildings that served also as community gathering places. We organized the South Africa Outreach Program, a not-for-profit organization, and engaged many of our American friends to provide funds for assistance in other projects. We organize a group of about 30 teenagers to make their very first "once in a lifetime trip" outside of South Africa, and they toured 1o USA cities for about 30 days with a stage play that dramatized the transitioning life in South Africa at the turn of the century.
My new name did not come in isolation. During that same period, my wife earned the name "Mpho" (pronounced mm-PO) which means "gift." She has been a gift to me, as well as all those with whom we have shared our blessings.
When we share the stories of our new friends in Africa with our American friends, they nod in agreement, and some of them have begun to refer to us as Thuso and Mpho, although they have difficulty with the spelling or pronuncation.
Thanks for asking the question. What our African friends helped us to understand is that there is deep and powerful meaning in a name. It represents your meaning to others. And that adds value to someone else's life.
Thuso
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