3828817760?profile=original“Power concedes nothing without a DEMAND. It never did and it never will", really?
Does power concedes nothing without a DEMAND?
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Does power concedes nothing without a DEMAND?
 

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  • Caricom

    My dear brothers and sisters. I have an announcement to make. Maybe I am late with this discovery, but the fact is Black descendants of enslaved Africans are the "chosen people of God - Israel. If you would like proof, please take the time to read Deut. 28:15-68 where Israel is being told by God that if the people fail to obey his commandments, they would be captured, have iron yokes about their necks, would be put on ships and taken to a far away land where they would have to learn a strange language and be dominated by a fierce and merciless people. They would be sold into slavery with no one to redeem them. Their children would be taken away and sold into slavery. Their women would be raped and they would be powerless to do anything about it. All of their hard work would enrich another people. They would build houses and not be allowed to live in them. They would plant crops and not be allowed to eat them. They would work under harsh conditions - hungry, thirsty, naked, and poor. They would be the butt of jokes all over the world. Even the 'foreigner' among them would surpass them, lend to them and lead them. They would be a very sick people, suffering from diseases unknown during the time that the Law was given to Israel. They would live in fear day and night and have no assurance of their lives because there would be no one to protect them or defend them. Their plans would always be frustrated and they would never accomplish anything meaningful as a people. Worse, they would be tricked into false worship of idols of wood and stone.

    Yes, the implications of this prophecy will be disastrous to the present structure of the system of things, including the religious system of things, but can anyone think of another people in all of human history that experienced these horrific conditions? 

    The good news is that our journey in this Hell of America is almost finished. Gen. 15:13, 14 tells us that we would be afflicted for 400 years, meanwhile the nation that has been afflicting us is being judged by God and he would draw us out of this bondage with great riches. 

    My research tells me that the earliest recorded sale of an enslaved African in America was at Jamestown, VA in 1619.

    It does not take a rocket scientist to recognize that as this system continues to slowly collapse, we are witnessing the plagues that will lead to the ruin of this nation. How we will finally emerge out of the chaos with 'great substance', I have not a clue.

    However, I do know that now is the time for all of us to take great pride in realizing who we are, where we came from and why we have been catching Hell in America. Now is the time for all of us to repair our damaged relationship with the Almighty who is still honoring a covenant he concluded with our ancestors to become 'a holy nation'. Will we take advantage of God's goodwill and return to him with all our heart, soul and strength?

    Military might is not the answer. Political clout is not the answer. Religion is structured to divide and confuse us. Knowing who we really are is the beginning of unifying and restoring nationhood to a long lost people. What is equally amazing is that our people are grasping this message and are immediately being effected for the better by it. I have actually witnessed this for myself. 

    No longer are we Negroes, jiggaboos, Blacks, Afro-Americans or African-Americans. We are the "chosen people of God", still in a covenant relationship with God and on the verge of being released from 400 years of misery.

    I for one, have committed to making it my mission in life to bring this 'good news' to the attention of our religious leaders, political leaders and community leaders and challenge them to share this information with their constituents as soon as possible. I will also host discussion groups locally and conduct one-on-one discussions about this most important matter.

    Let us all take pride in our new found identity and be determined to make our Heavenly Father proud of us by being obedient members of his royal household.

    I would welcome any constructive comments or questions about this most important subject, since in this case "Power" will have to decide to sue for peace or refuse to change it's murderous policies toward the children of God and suffer the consequences. Shalom, my people.  

    • My brother, how did get from the this question: “Power concedes nothing without a DEMAND. It never did and it never will", really?
      Does power concedes nothing without a DEMAND?  to the sermon you contributed, I get that you may have been drive to make a contribution but this have no relevance to the the question.

      You'd do well post your statement as a stand alone statement one of our blogs.

      Let focus and stay on topic.

      Thanks for your cooperation!!!

    • Caricom

      You are absolutely correct, my brother. Please accept my sincere apologies. With your permission, perhaps we could have an open exchange about this topic - are the Blacks of America the Israel of God? I think it might stimulate many comments and opinions - pro and con. At any rate, it might also prove to be educational and enlightening. Your thoughts? Shalom, my brother. 

    • Chicago-Midwest

      Although definitely off-topic I do want to point out that the CURSES that brotha Wes is referring to were a 400 year curse from Yahweh almost to mirror the time the Israelites were supposedly enslaved in Kemet (when they hadn't done anything wrong, when they should have still been under the protection of the promise made to Abraham, and when this deity basically didn't do anything to help this whole time). This curse actually contradicts other statements made by this same deity not to punish the sons for the sins of their fathers. And we basically want to be saved by this deity... FROM this deity.... The irony is astounding but we fail to recognize it. If this wasn't off-topic I might even go into detail about how we (Africans) created this deity. We are not the "chosen" people of Yahweh. Yahweh was the "chosen" deity of the Israelites. And not even the only one. But those who controlled the story controlled the history. And people followed them based on what they believed their history to be.

      And this, again, sets up a position of POWER and a position of NEED. Those in NEED go to those in POWER for their education and lo and behold the education they receive does what....? It benefits those in POWER. When those people in power are NOT US... that's a problem. Because no matter what we ask for or demand what we WILL get is something that benefits those in POWER. And again if that's not US then that's a problem.

  • Chicago-Midwest

    The more I think about our condition and the things I believe we need to do in order to get ourselves out the less I see a need to "demand" anything but our own supply. Meaning... business is about supply and demand. Demand gets what it wants by paying supply. If we are demanding, let's say freedom or equality, then we are saying in the same breath that the ones we are demanding it of actually have it in supply. It also suggest that they are willing to give it. But... why would they? If the benefit to us is greater than the benefit to them then it would not be a good business deal. Whites, historically, make business deals that are far more favorable to them then those they are doing business with. Much of America wasn't "stolen" in the literal sense but stolen by natives accepting bad deals. 

    Now if someone is attempting to make bad deals with me then I lose interest in dealing with them at all. I dunno... maybe that's just me. But I think we need to get out of the mindset of thinking that "they" have what we need. I think they have an ILLUSION of wealth and power that depends on our FAITH! We have faith in them and in the power of their system, not realizing that it is we who supply that power. We are doing their work for them. What if we simply worked for ourselves? What if we supplied our own demands? What if we supported each other? What if we believed in ourselves? What if created our own infrastructure for doing business with each other? What if we took all the energy spent focusing on them and what they're doing to us and used that same energy to do something different, not against them, but simply FOR US? I don't think they are so successful because they hate us. I think they are successful because we hate ourselves. And if we don't hate ourselves then shouldn't we be doing things completely different?

    • request that you go to the dictionary and get acquainted with the language and the definitiion and distinctions to be gleaned from the word DEMAND as used in the question.

      PLEASE NOTE:

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      The final word.

      "Power concedes nothing without a DEMAND".

      This is highly factual.

      This is not the whole story.

      Why does power concedes nothing with out a demand?

      What is a demand?

      If I were to walk up to a big burly man with nothing in my hands and demand his wallet, he would likely laugh me to death or bash my head in.

      If I had a gun, it is more likely that he would honor my demand.

      Have you ever made a demand that was not fulfilled?

      Ever wonder why?

      Let's look again at the statement as a linguist.

      The operative word is demand.

      Demand is defined as:

      1. To call for with authority
      2. Forceful request: a clear and firm request that is DIFFICULT TO DENY OR IGNORE
      3. Ask for something strongly

      No wonder demonstrators or petitioners "strong" demands are ignored.
      They lack the authority to compel attention and compliance.

      The NAACP and the NRA are very large organizations, the NRA, however, is more likely to have its demands met in Congress because on its authority at the ballot box and its financial leverage exercised as lobists etc

      Congressional leaders ignore the NRA's demands at their peril.

      Now let's look at "Power concedes nothing without a demand" from its application in the physical world - scientifically.

      Newton's Law of Motion:

      • An object that is at rest will stay at rest unless an external force acts upon it.
      • An object that is in motion will not change its velocity unless an external force acts upon it.

      Only a more powerful external force will move an entrenched power structure.
      Only a more powerful external force will slow or halt the pace of the usually and historic occurrences.

      Simply saying I WANT or I DEMAND has little impact.

      Organizing, organizing, leveraging, leveraging and the ability to be in and use and be used by the object to be changed is what have power concedes - power only concedes to a more powerful opposing force.

    • Chicago-Midwest

      Doesn't matter what definition you are using. When you DEMAND you are "asking" or "seeking" something. The difference with a demand is that you are doing so from a position of power. Is this not the definition you are using on this subject? If it is then my comments still apply because I believe we need to stop seeking anything from them, whether it is from a position of power or not. Because in doing so you are still expressing a NEED. And the other person is the one in a position to fulfill that need. 

      But we need is INDEPENDENCE. If I am not depending on you for anything then for what do I need to ask you for anything or even demand it? Independence will create a position of power. With that power you wont have to go to them. They will come to YOU. See what I'm saying? Because it will be THEY who will have the NEED and it will be US in a position to fulfill that need. And being in a position of power... being independent... we can choose to fulfill that need or not. This is the position they are in currently. They can fulfill our needs OR NOT. It is the "or not" part that we don't seem to get. Because we have needs we expect them to fulfill them when they do not need to in order to stay in the position of wealth, power, and authority they are currently in. And how do they get in that position? By the NEEDS of others. If we fulfill our own needs then they wouldn't be able to exploit us like they have done for centuries.

    • Words matter. Language is everything. If the words use and how used did not matter, there'd be no need for lawyers.

      Remember?

      "In the beginning was the WORD"  "And......, and it was so."

      Likewise what ever you and I say is so. Our words and language creates the context for our experience.

    • Chicago-Midwest

      Brotha, I think you misunderstood. What I said/am saying is that it doesn't matter which of the definitions you choose to use (from the dictionary) for the word "DEMAND" it doesn't change one iota of what I said in my response. There is a POWER -> NEED relationship. That's the point I'm making and I hope that you're not missing that point because you were trying to evoke a different conversation on us needing power/authority to back up our "asking/requesting/seeking".

      For clarity:

      1
      a :  an act of demanding or asking especially with authority <a demand for obedience>
      b :  something claimed as due <a list of demands>
      3
      a :  willingness and ability to purchase a commodity or service <the demand for quality day care>
      b :  the quantity of a commodity or service wanted at a specified price and time <supply and demand>
      4
      a :  a seeking or state of being sought after <in greatdemand as an entertainer>
      b :  urgent need
      5
      :  the requirement of work or of the expenditure of a resource<equal to the demands of the office> <demands on one's time> <oxygen demand for waste oxidation>
      None of these definitions change what I said. If you have a DEMAND you have a need. If you cannot fulfill that need yourself then you must go to someone else. That someone else does not have to fulfill your need. And therefore, you must give this person what they want in order to get what you need. This is a dependent relationship. If we want freedom then we must work for INDEPENDENCE. This means we can tell this person "I don't NEED you." And then we are in a position to ask for what WE WANT in order to fulfill THEIR NEED.


  • The final word.

    "Power concedes nothing without a DEMAND".

    This is highly factual.

    This is not the whole story.

    Why does power concedes nothing with out a demand?

    What is a demand?

    If I were to walk up to a big burly man with nothing in my hands and demand his wallet, he would likely laugh me to death or bash my head in.

    If I had a gun, it is more likely that he would honor my demand.

    Have you ever made a demand that was not fulfilled?

    Ever wonder why?

    Let's look again at the statement as a linguist.

    The operative word is demand.

    Demand is defined as:

    1. To call for with authority
    2. Forceful request: a clear and firm request that is DIFFICULT TO DENY OR IGNORE
    3. Ask for something strongly

    No wonder demonstrators or petitioners "strong" demands are ignored.
    They lack the authority to compel attention and compliance.

    The NAACP and the NRA are very large organizations, the NRA, however, is more likely to have its demands met in Congress because on its authority at the ballot box and its financial leverage exercised as lobists etc

    Congressional leaders ignore the NRA's demands at their peril.

    Now let's look at "Power concedes nothing without a demand" from its application in the physical world - scientifically.

    Newton's Law of Motion:

    • An object that is at rest will stay at rest unless an external force acts upon it.
    • An object that is in motion will not change its velocity unless an external force acts upon it.

    Only a more powerful external force will move an entrenched power structure.
    Only a more powerful external force will slow or halt the pace of the usually and historic occurrences.

    Simply saying I WANT or I DEMAND has little impact.

    Organizing, organizing, leveraging, leveraging and the ability to be in and use and be used by the object to be changed is what have power concedes - power only concedes to a more powerful opposing force.

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