during obama's lil speech at grant park in chi-town he made a reference to "our founding father" and the ideals that they had envisioned for amerikkka. how dare that nigga say "our founding father," when white folk founding fathers had our forefathers and foremothers in physical bondage, out in the field from can see in the morning to can't see at night. is that nigga sick or what? you will never catch the white jew saying anything nice about the legacy of nazism. it goes to show how sick the black man's mind is. it is a testament of the white man's control and absolute ownership of the mentality that the black man exerts. and that is the very reason why the black collective will continue to be controlled by the psycho structure of white supremacy.you'd have to be completely out of your damn mind to reflect back on the founding fathers and then turn around and make them your founding fathers as afrikan people who have been basically beaten in all areas of our existence, short of our natural spiritual nature, which is first and foremost godly. and if that's not the underlying basis for such a jackass of a comment, then there is another-an agent of the enemy state, feigning to be the change that the black collective has been in dire straights for, the change that white folk have even fell victim to. but, i couldn't give a damn about what travails that the white collective all of a sudden is going through.there must come a time when the black collective must be taught that there is a snakish element within our ranks that is just as much as the enemy as the white ruling class. and this scheisty entity is none other than the so-called black leaders. their failure to tell us what time it really is, on purpose for a purpose, is the sole reason why the black collective has been so manipulated and grossly deceived that it doesn't take much for the white ruling class to conjure up a fine black image, a white man in black face, and project it onto the black collective and with not one iota of resistance on our part.obama is the latest political black pied piper that the black collective has been drugged with, in order to further control them, especially the black youth, because, given the right formula, which is revolutionary philosophy, it would be virtually unstopable in overthrowing a system that has threatened our existence in the worse ways that this planet has felt. never has there been a time where afrikan people have been attacked in the various forms of warfare-such as biological warfare, chemical warfare, cultural warfare and religious warfare-than before our defeat at the hands of modern white supremacy.and after seeing all the black folk crying their tears of joy, over a long time coming, ever waiting so patiently, wishing, hoping and praying to God, that a black man, if not but for a lil moment or for just a flash, can finally become president of a regime that has been nothing but anti-afrikan since its inception, it has dawned on me that we're becoming more hopeless by the day, in the face of shriving for black sovereignty, recognizing ourselves as a continued displaced nation, as opposed to a still second class citizenship, and an illusory we-are-amerikkkans-too.it is beyond saying that afrikans-n-amerikkka are so naive and gullible, that they haven't an inkling of an idea, as to how things really work in the sadistic world of politics. they have been so sold on the public image, the outer rim of inner politicing, that it seems that there is hardly any progress in the reshaping of the psycho-pompus minds of the black collective. again, we have no one to blame but the bunch of niggas, who were supposed to have been leading us in the field of politics (after they gained our heartfelt trust, because they were supposed to be black intellects), as it applies to what's best for the black collective. instead, what politicing they've projected onto us has only benefitted them, and created a one percent negro millionaire clique and black middle class circle, both of them having decided and concluded long ago, on the hinge of the post-civil rights movement, that it is perfectly alright to have faith in the government of the united snakes and promote amerikkkan fascist capitalism.it is certainly mind blowing, overly amazing, to see the almost total collapse of the black collective mind, as it sinks deeper into the abyss of mental darkness, rooted in an abnormal social-psychology, that persuades the black collective to manifest a type of frame of mind, which pretends, in the highest form of denial, that the election of obama is going to be their break, or at least a lil loosening of the noose, from five hundred years of white terrorism.in fact, there some brothas and sistars, as painful as it is to refer to them as such, who are aware of the same disgusting things, but have went along with the obama craze anyway, just because they can say finally, at last, in order to have a chance to be a part of history, a history that goes no further than feel good history, predicated on an emotional trip, just as the black collective has been sold on the trials and tribulations of jesus, who is said to have died for us. and the beat goes on...uhuru!

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  • Chicago-Midwest
    And what of the exceptions? What!

    And what of the Black people that willingly participated in the capture and trade of our forefathers? Traded the lives of your forefathers for guns and drugs and status.
    And what of the Black people that owned and guided the slave galleons to these shores?
    And what of the Black planters that owned and exploited the same chattel slaves as their white counterparts?
    And what of the Black people that designed and built solutions for us all on those foundations of pain, sweat, blood, death and corruption?

    Do we continue to ignore their contributions?
    Do we only claim the tragic abuses?
    Do we only sing the blues, hymns and fight songs?

    Is our entire make-up a simple transition from being warrior kings fighting each other on our mother continent to victims of social and labor abuses? Will we always be recipients of corporate welfare programs, fast talking pimps in priests garb, well meaning white folks that only seek to right the wrongs of the corrupt individuals that made them wealthy, and violent self destructive bastard children running feral in the streets with semi automatic weapons, shouting "Liberation"?

    Our forefathers, from the slavers that raped our fore mothers that generated so many of us to our forefathers, who ran, fought and prayed for brighter days, our forefathers, who secreted knowledge to their children, our forefathers, who elected a black man to be the president of the Continental Congress that founded this hodge podge of states.

    We should stop ignoring the investment of those that came before us, that we might be able to build something for those that will follow.

    Just because it hurts to look at the truth of it.

    When will we pull up our trousers and learn the language of the people that sit at the grown folks table of design and decision and use it?
    • South
      Dahomey was the worst slave trading state in the history of mankind. It is precisely, exactly the same culture that Dahomey gave us that inspires present day so-called "black nationalists" And, most of them are too ignorant to know it, and too lazy to find out the truth. But, it is not until we face the truth that we will solve our problems.
      • Chicago-Midwest
        They not hear that we've been fighting about who wears skirts and who wears blue for the last five thousand years.

        They want to burn the libraries.
  • Chicago-Midwest
    here is sista Marimba Ani's response:
    marimba.jpgBreaking the Silence: Fulfilling The Promise
    by Marimba Ani

    Amura Onaa tells us that when our Ancestors were being torn apart from each other, we looked into each other’s eyes and made a solemn promise. We promised to reconnect with each other so that this tearing apart would never happen again. It is the Afrikan belief that we are our Ancestors reborn, and through this spiritual rebirth, we gain eternal life. The promise could only be fulfilled by future generations returning as Afrikans who had made this sacred promise to each other. What our Ancestors suffered over centuries, could only have been survived because they had hope. But what could possibly have given them cause for hope? If they had not survived and bore children who bore children who bore children, we would not be here. It is the Afrikan belief that we choose to be born when we are in the spirit world, and that we make a contract to fulfill a purpose in this life. All of this can only mean that we have chosen to be born Afrikan and that we are the hope of our Ancestors. Our purpose on this earth is to avenge our Ancestors and to achieve the victory: Afrikan sovereignty through a Pan-Afrikan world order based on the principles of MAAT. It is our choice to fulfill The Promise to our Ancestors by achieving the victory denied them.

    It is now Tuesday, November 4, 2008. Is this the final act of assimilation, accommodation, and integration? Is this how we are fulfilling our promise to the Ancestors? Has America made restitution for what was done to them, still being done to us? Is the Maafa over or has it merely morphed into another, more insidious form of genocide? Are we now experiencing a life-threatening condition of cultural AIDS in which our immune system has turned on itself? Has the Yurugu virus mutated so that it looks like us? Are we participating in our own self-destruction?

    We are witnessing a time of the most blatant acts of genocide such as “Katrina” (Maafa - 2005), in which thousands of our people were slaughtered, left to die, placed in disease-producing holding pens, forcibly relocated, separated from their families and support-systems, and their (our) children “lost”, all this for the purpose of corporate profit and for the illegal misappropriation of land.

    In our time, Afrikan mothers are being incarcerated in increasing numbers, so that their presence in the u.s. prison system almost equals that of Afrikan men and fathers, who have, for more than a century, been sacrificed to the prison-industrial complex.
    We are living in the time of Blackwater, mercenaries used by government and corporations. We are living in the time of American support of European Hegemony taken to the most extreme levels ever in history. We watch as America’s bank, the so-called “world bank,” sucks the life out of Afrika, Jamaica and other Black nations. We are living in the time of the IMF, the Federal Reserve, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers and more.

    The Patriot Act is an updated McCarran Act of 1950. We are living in a time that can be understood as part of “the process of Fascism”. Fascism creates a demon, sells this demonization to the public, then uses it to control (intimidate, detain, torture, kill) anyone who challenges the state’s abuse of human rights. In the l950’s the demons were the “subversives,” and the “communists” ´throughout the “cold war,” in 1968, following the assassination of Dr. King, the demons were those suspected of being “guerrillas”, and by 2001 the term “terrorists” had been accepted as describing the new “demons.” Should we allow the original, the real terrorists to define “terrorism” ?

    This brief statement is only meant to point to the reality of the times in which we live, the political legacy that we have inherited as “americans,” and what we need to be aware of at this “historic” moment. In the 1960’s, our people were regarded by the rest of the world as leaders in the struggle for human rights as we fought to expose and confront the genocidal policies perpetrated by the american government towards Afrikan people in the u.s.

    We stopped organizing. We stopped confronting “the system.” We became part of “the system.” We sent our sons to fight for u.s. monetary gain. We did not see value in self-determination, self-definition, and self-reliance for our people. Those who were politically conscious read and talked about ancient history. We no longer concerned ourselves with contemporary events, systems, or political realities. Instead of expanding our movement to become a world movement, a truly Pan-Afrikan movement, we were content to become “individuals” in the “greatest” (most materially powerful) country in the world.

    So now we are “making history” by being swept up in someone else’s definition of what history is. We are “making history,” by capitulating to integration, accommodation, and assimilation. We have reached the mountain top, for we have been able to vote for a “first to.” The struggle is over. We have won. We can proudly say that one of our people represents the most repressive, destructive, inhumane, anti-Afrikan nation ever to have existed! We are proud to be part of a multinational corporate structure run by sociopathic adolescents who think nothing of stealing from their own people. (Imagine what they will do to us.)

    We say that we vote because our Ancestors died to get the vote. Yes, if you decide to vote, that is your “right.” Do not, however, blame it on “the Ancestors.” That’s like saying Black people died to go to school with white people, so I will make sure that my children go to white schools. I have a personal experience of that Movement. Registering to vote in Mississippi was a means of confronting a system of oppression head on. Today we vote to avoid confrontation with a system that is Fascist. In Mississippi, attempting to register, meant putting your life on the line, if you were Black. This effort became part of a strategy to expose the system of oppression that existed in this country, which continues to exist even though we, Black people, can now “vote” (even in Mississippi). No, that is not what our Ancestors died for. They died to fulfill The Promise. And that is the question that we should raise. “What are we doing to fulfill The Promise?”

    Is this occasion “historic” because it represents the abandonment of our sacred obligation to the Ancestors? Will we go down in “his” story as having finally capitulated and become satisfied with the evil that is represented in contemporary globalization, privatization and international capitalism? Have we aborted our movement for freedom, liberation and sovereignty? Or have we merely redefined that objective in “american” individualistic, “what’s in it for me” terms? Have we now “won”? Or have we simply taken the easier road, finding it more comfortable to be colonized than to fight for liberation? Are we excited about the possibility of being closer to power than we have ever been before?, even though that power rests on the exploitation, even murder, of Afrikans and other non-Europeans throughout the world? Have we even dared to ask ourselves “what kind of person would want to be president of the United States of America?”

    What is the significance of this moment, Tuesday, November 4, 2008, in “our” story?

    Let us make this a time for reassessment of our lives, each of us. Let us reconnect with each other in ways that will help our people to become self-sustaining. Let us read and study and become aware of what this country stands for in the world. Let us teach and learn about the monetary system.

    Organize, Organize, Organize!
    Food cooperatives,
    Investment groups
    Independent Afrikan schools
    Alternative sustainable energy
    Communal and collective social entities
    Susus (saving together)
    Vehicles for harnessing and sharing our resources
    Ways of educating ourselves for optimal healthy living
    Methods for alternative social organization
    The study of ways in which our Ancestors organized communities, so that we can get ideas for the future (doing Sankofa)
    Black political conventions
    An independent Afrikan/Black vehicle for political action and race (Kanda) decision-making
    A Back-to-Afrika process.

    We must read the following:
    Blueprint for Black Power (Amos Wilson) (especially chapter 31)
    The Choice (Sam Yette)
    There is A River (Vincent Harding)
    The condition, Elevation, Emigration and Destiny of the Colored People of the United States of America (Martin Delany)
    The Miseducation of the Negro (Carter G. Woodson)
    The Destruction of Black Civilization (Chancellor Williams)
    Two Thousand Seasons (Ayi Kwei Armah)
    Wretched of the Earth (Franz Fanon)

    By Europeans:
    The Shock Doctrine (Naomi Klein)

    And watch:
    Goodbye Uncle Tom
    Zeitgeist Addendum
    End Games
    Loose Change
    The Corporation
    (pass this on and add suggestions)

    Go to:

    Let this be a beginning again for us. Let us have the courage of Martin Delany and others, who organized the Black Convention Movement, and sought Afrikan sovereignty in the 1850’s. Let us recapture the spirit of the 60’s, with its “togetherness” of our people, only now with greater clarity about what we want. Let us revive the independent political party movement of the early 70’s (NBIP and CAP), when our people came together in activism in Gary, Indiana and elsewhere. Let us organize with our people, out of love for our people. Let us build a movement without hierarchy among the most economically depressed of our people; a movement that will be responsive to the immediate survival needs of our people, while raising the political consciousness and knowledge-base of us all. Let us study together and build together and fight together and teach each other. Let us build a revolutionary Pan-Afrikanist movement of all of our people, so that we can hold any and all elected officials accountable for their decisions and actions. Let us be in the vanguard of the movement for radical upheaval of the american reality. Let us organize a support system for the Katrina resistors. Let us not forget them. Let us organize sustainable struggle and self-sustaining institutions that can protect our people from the intentional “disasters” of monopoly capitalism, and save them in the natural disasters caused by the greed and selfishness of the rulers.
    Let this be the moment in which we step back onto the stage of history, shouting ourstory to the world. “We are not capitulating.” “We are not allowing ourselves to be part of a Fascist nation.” We are not giving up our people, our movement, or our Ancestors for “one america.” Let us be unrelenting in our confrontation with the anti-Afrikan, anti-human mechanisms of oppression.
    Never forget that our power is in our connectedness. If they did not succeed in disconnecting us through the middle passage, through enslavement and lynching and incarceration, let them not succeed now through the duplicity of false “democracy.”

    Let us not believe the hype. This is not our victory. This “historic occasion” is a victory for america, it is a victory for the status quo, for all of the things that we should be fighting against. Be in Washington DC in January to make demands on the new administration. If you voted for it, make it work for you!

    Let us make this a time for real change, a time for fulfilling The Promise. Tugane pamoja tutafune nia yetu. “Let us come together and define our cause.” Let the circle be unbroken.

    Marimba Ani,
    A Race Woman, A Cultural Warrior.

    • South
      Amura Onaa tells us that when our Ancestors were being torn apart from each other, we looked into each other’s eyes and made a solemn promise. We promised to reconnect with each other so that this tearing apart would never happen again.

      Maybe this is where your problems start. Instead of focusing so much on romantic mythodology, may I suggest to you that you spend more time studyig African history.

      "It is the Afrikan belief that we choose to be born when we are in the spirit world..."

      I do not know what Africans you are talking about. I certainly do not believe this non-sensense. In fact, I know many Africans. None has ever related such non-sense to me. Could it be that you are into another myth?

      "It is now Tuesday, November 4, 2008. Is this the final act of assimilation, accommodation, and integration? Is this how we are fulfilling our promise to the Ancestors? Has America made restitution for what was done to them, still being done to us?"

      Well, it is now May 12, 2009. And since Novembebr 4, we have seen an improvements in the situations in Zimbabwe, Somalia, Sudan and Palestine. It is still too ealy to be sure. But, one could be forgiven for being hopeful and positive.

      May I suggest to you that you spend more time "analysing" anf criticizing the right wing of the Dummy-craitc Party. Obama is a politician. Her sits in the balance. He is going to go the way that he feels the most pressure coming from. If you be positive and nationalistic, a big IF, perhaps you should bring pressure against the right wing. Start by criticizing the Clintons for their unprovked attack on Sudan. Remember, this happened before the Darfur farce occured. So, they had no reason for this except sectarianism and feminism. It was also before Sudan contracted to sell most of their oil to China and the Muslims and not the west. Criticize that bacause if you do not, you are likely to see more such insanity now that your hereine Miss Hilary is Secretary of State.

      Now, that Miss Hialry is writing foreign policy, expect to see more slaughter ot innocent men, women and children ifn Pakistan and Afghanistan and Palestine. I think she gets her kicks by murder. But, she is not the only right wing Dummy-crat whispering in Obama's ear.

      Look at the economic and finance bailout. Obama still has several of bush criminals on the dark sidelines, whispering the same stupid economic theories that got the country into this mess in the first place. Not only that, some of them are being huge bonuses with your tax dollars. Obama can do nothing unless you and people like you raise some hell about these sorts of things. What's the matter? Are you chicken? If anything, Obama has created the situation in which you can speak out and be heard. But, all you can do is compalin about November 4? Wake up.

      "Let us not forget them. Let us organize sustainable struggle and self-sustaining institutions that can protect our people from the intentional “disasters” of monopoly capitalism, and save them in the natural disasters caused by the greed and selfishness of the rulers."

      Okay... What about organizing a support system to establish a united state in the Somali nation? Don't you think 18 years is enough to be without a central government. But, the logic behind that would be a united Sudan as well. Do you have what it takes to get serious about Pan-Africanism?

      When you get serious, you will see work to build up a continental army and navy in Africa. This would enable us to collect taxes to finance industry in Africa. This is what is meant about scientific socialism. This is why I began this commentary by urging you to study history and not myth. Myth is not scientific. History correctly studied is scientific. Upon a scientific study of African history we will arrive at scientific socialism which ia an integral part of Pan-Africanism.
    • hetep,

      i've come to realize that i'm one the brothas who have almost ran the gamut when it comes to black consciousness, reading, going to lectures and what not. i made sure that when i began to understand this thing called amerikkka twenty years ago, i would learn about the origin of religious psychology, especially christ insanity. and since then, it's been an avalanche, as i've come to know many-a-things and have transformed into something else, a no holds barred black nationalist revolutionary, who understands the price of freedom fighting is death, one who understands that bloodshed is eminent, because that's how our enemy came to get us in the present situation that we are in today.

      the obama thing reminds me of two other socico-psychological movements that have come along over the course of modern history-hitler in germany and jim jones in guyana. the power of the gift of speech and its well-rehearsed rhetoric is an absolutely amazing phenomenon. and as i watched all the brothas and sistars crying tears of joy, i couldn't help but feel more rage at the system of things, which includes niggas who have struck a deal with the devil.

      in my neck of the woods, i'm drawing the line. on one side it's rbg and on the other it's whatever else. my rantings don't have room for let's hope, keep the dream alive, singing negro spirituals, optimism and faith in amerikkka. my rantings will, at times, discriminate against certain black people, because the streets is where my heart lies. if there ain't no work being put in on the streets, then we're waisting our time. i appreciate your knowledge, wisdom and understanding.

      p.e.a.c.e. progress everytime afrikans cultivate enlightenment
      See related links to what you are looking for.
      • Chicago-Midwest
        Obama is assembling his cabinet with many from the Clinton adminstration, along with advice from the creator of the Tri-Lateral Commission, Zbigniew Brezinski, and major World Financier, David Rockefeller. So we shouldn't expect too much from this administration. There is even some suggestion that they try to role over everyone's 401K's into Social Security, thereby, in acuallity, confiscating it. In addition he is advocating that everyone 18 -25 years of age be required to perform some type of "community service" . This is similar to what Hitler and the Soviet Union did in years past. Just something for everyone to think about.

        didn't i say the man was backed by the Bilderberger group? Illuminati and Skull and Bones? how did i know that? well, as Nobel Drew Ali use to say, "when you know the nature of a thing, you know what it will do!" IF this saying sounds familiar its because in the movie Blade, Wesley Snipes' character is telling this to N'Bushe Wright's character when they are chasing the wanna-be...

        so with this information in hand, what on earth is the thinking of the world in reference to Obama... or does the world have this information? and without it, is it possible for the world to think in an INFORMED manner? or is opinion enough?

      • Chicago-Midwest
        QMK Note: We must not forget that the u.s.a. is NOT a government or nation but rather a coporation with administrative powers only... they have no judicial powers.,.. Obama is the president of a coporation... why are We excited about that? there are other corporate presidents and We ain't actin' a fool like this!

        Our Delusional Need for a Black President, Part I

        a commentary by Omowale Za

        Black Reparations Activist


        Black Socio-Psychologist Amos N. Wilson is noted for his assessment that the reasons for integration were primarily psychological and not economic. This is evident by the fact that integration led to the demise of major Black economic strong-holds throughout the U.S. An example frequently sited is Auburn Avenue in Atlanta, Georgia.

        Wilson’s thesis is that Black People were on the road to greater economic freedom on our own basis and in spite of White People. Indeed, the attacks against us in Rosewood, Tulsa, Oklahoma and other centers reflected resentment of our economic progress by White People. We chose to limit our economic progress due to our feelings of inferiority. We needed to eat at the same restaurants and to attend the same schools in order to feel “equal”. Wilson also challenges our motivations in wanting to feel “equal” to People who have spearheaded so much damage against us. This is delusional. In this light, the Obama election to the Presidency is quite enlightening.

        As a point in fact or of interest, noted Black Historian J.A. Rogers, The Five Negro Presidents, has documented that we have already had five Black U.S. Presidents. An important difference, of course, is that these Black Presidents were passing for White. Rogers challenges us to research the facts and proof for ourselves and not to simply take his word for it.

        It is virtually impossible to have a sensible conversation with a U.S. African slave descendant about the delusional nature of our attachment to the Obama campaign and election. None with who I have spoke have offered any objective proof that the fact of a Black President adds in any way to the Black Power base in the U.S. Another viewpoint might question what Black Power base there is in the U.S. that is not attached to the dominant White society. That is, we have no social system of our own as do other ethnic groups. One could say that we are the only “individuals” in the U.S. Everybody else is attached to their ethnic or class group and functions as a entity on their own basis, more or less, except us. No social system that we control equals no economic system that we control. We are the world’s largest liquid economy that is controlled by others based upon the world’s largest cohesion contract where we are “attached” to a dominant system without a referendum or plebiscite. Hence we are not self determining and most of what we engage is by necessity on some kind of informal or psychological basis.

        If Obama’s election does not augment Black Power in the U.S. it augments White Power. He will not have to be accountable to a Black status quo but to the powers that be who are White in this country. It could be just a question of time before Blacks could be out in the streets demonstrating against President Obama due to our delusional expectations of what his election should mean to us as a People. The proposition then that we needed a Black Presidents for psychological purposes is far reaching in its implications.

        Part II is forthcoming.
        • South
          "If Obama’s election does not augment Black Power in the U.S. it augments White Power. He will not have to be accountable to a Black status quo but to the powers that be who are White in this country."

          This is not Obama's fault. It is the fault of so-called "black nationalists" who are too sorry and lazy to study African history as a basis upon which to organize a political party, an All-African party to govern the affairs of the African Nation. It is the Party that must lead the civil society instsituions that will make African governemnt accountable and responsive in the country and throughout the African Diaspora, but especially in the African Union. Anything short of Work/Study in the Party is just so much hot air, so much waste of valuable time. By Work/Study I do mean a serious study of African history. Begin with Africa and Unity by Thompson.
          • uhuru,

            "If Obama’s election does not augment Black Power in the U.S. it augments White Power. He will not have to be accountable to a Black status quo but to the powers that be who are White in this country."

            i second the motion! obama knows exactly what he has to do in order to stay afloat or they'll sink his boat. and he has the same plan that the rockefeller population council has had for afrika for quite some time.

            "It is the fault of so-called "black nationalists" who are too sorry and lazy to study African history..."

            and you're fulla shit! i know black nationalist that would carve your silly-ass commentaries to pieces. and, again, your commentaries have the smell of agent provocatuer all over them. that's why you comment the way that you do.

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