South
IN 2010 WHY DO WE HAVE TO SEE OUR PEOPLE DRESSED LIKE CLOWNS AND PRISON READY PEOPLE ? THIS IS TOTALLY DISGUSTING AND IT IS NOT LOOKING LIKE IT IS GOING TO STOP. DO WE NEED TO PASS ORDINANCES TO CEASE THIS TRIFFLING LOOK ? THIS IS NOT A FASHION TREND SO STOP SAYING THAT STUPID SENTENCE. IT IS A SLAVE MINDED, GHETTO LOOKING  MIND STEALING MENTALITY THAT IS STILL SPREADING THRU OUR WORLD AND COMMUNITIES. THE SO CALLED ENTERTAINERS WHO WEAR THIS LOOK SHOULD BE PULLED OFF THE STAGE AND BEAT DOWN FOR SPREADING THIS STUPIDITY . WE NOW HAVE TO NOT ONLY LOOK AT DIRTY LAYERS OF UNDERGARMENTS..BUT NOW ALSO LOOK AT FEMALES "THONGS" STRIPPER UNDERGARMENSTS ON THE FEMALES AND SOME WITH MENS UNDERSHORTS ALSO..THIS TREND HAS GOT TO STOP AND LADIES WHAT IS UP WITH THE SPANDEX ON  GROSSLY OVER WEIGHT BODIES? THIS IS NOT CUTE TO LOOK AT.....IT IS LIKE LOOKING AT CATTLE WITH CLOTHES ON..ANY COMMENTS... 

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  • NYMetro
    I would like to come at this problem of sagging and the greater problems of this generation from a slighly different direction using recent history as my supporting mechanism. I feel that I should first mention that I am a former member of the orginal Black Panther Party of the 1960's and a associate member of SNCC as well as my black students organization in college.

    I believe that we should stop attacking the parents/grand parents of my generation with what I feel are weakly substantiated arguments of overindulgence of our offspring, a lack of information of an historical nature of our struggle to them and other bits and pieces of a misleading nature. We who were and are the members of the 1960's generationhave a whole lot more to be proud of than shame. This is my take on what I see to be the continue assault on African people here and aboard.

    The seen and the unseen powers that be, whose primary goal is and has always been the complete destruction and domination of the African people and the control and exploiation of their land and nature resources, are never detoured from their goal. They, "white power elite", literally as well as figuatively, never sleep. At their private and sometimes public "think tanks" they spend exhausting hours on shifts "exploring the black problem". Under the less innocuious heading of "How to Keep America and the European Democracies Edge for the 21st Century and Beyond, some of America's and Western Europe's brightest and most talented are paid quite well to set around and "bounce off"ideas among each other in a environment that is as comfortable as capitalism came provide. This is and attempt to create the best conditions to stimulate the minds ability to come up with fresh ideas to meet its nafarious goal. This is what was done doing the latter part of the 1960's against the "children of the 60's generation" in general and more specifly the black youth of that time. This approach can be thought of as a kind of soft side of "Co-intell-pro.

    Our analysis of the history of Europe and its ugly offspring the United Snakes of America was so on point that even with the highly sophisticated propaganda network/machine in place and working overtime, they knew that it would be impossible to turn around the heads of this 60's generation. We had peeped their hole card and once we saw the devil we knew that their could never be any accommdation with him. The decision was made to forget about the 1960's generation. The way they saw it, as we aged, we would become less and less active and illness and death would leave fewer of us. The way to douse our fire and to deliver our most successful and vindictive blow to this pesty dangerous group of trouble makers who challenged our power was to get their kids. If we can successfuly turn their kids heads against the revolutionary teaching of their parents, they will be putty in our hands and we will reign unaposed for the next hundred years. The way that they accomplished this nafarious act was though the tried and true method that had worked in the past and that was, make what we want "the in thing","hip" and therefore desireable while at the same time making what they don't want to be "old fashion", "un-hip" and therefore undisireable.They then looked around for what they could use to make inroads into our community and into the heads of the next generation of kids and found Hip-Hop. But hip-hop eventhough it encompassed many elements that were ripe to be exploited by the "white power elite"to obtain it goal,still had a positive or non-harmfull message as it currently existed for its mostly black and urban following. Enter the nafarious twist and with it the removal of the positive hip-hop culture now being replace with a negative hip-hop culture based on gangs, the evils of street life and its subsequent conclusion of prison. It was called Gangster-Rap.Positive rap message and non-harmful rap was now looked upon as soft, unmanly and any practitioner of it was thought of as a punk. In short positve message rap was shown the proverbial door and is replace by gangster-rap. In order to sell it to its naturally rebellious youth the bogus misnomer of "keeping it real" becomes its mantra. Let us make no mistake about it, the recording industry are just another tool in the arsenal of the beast. Let us invision if you will for a moment a very large mansion call Fort America. Within that mansion/fort, the recording industry has a room. Because America profess to believe in "free enterprise" and all the rest of those other so-called freedom that we have been lead to believe that we have, America does not need to send its storm-troopers in to accomplish it ultimate goal when it can achieve what it wants by more "civilize" means. Hence what America or the white powere elite that runs it will do is,encourage what it wants and discourage what it does not want. This is done by giving or holding back its support of what is see's confronting it. Gangster-rap was encourage and surplanted positve message rap by being generously rewarded while at the same time message rap of a positive nature was discourage by having funding and opportunities taken away from it.

    Negro radio and their avaricious owners and D.J.'s are major enemies of the black community. Their role in the continuation of our psychological opression can not be miminalize or underestimated. When they were recently calling on the black community to "Help Save Black Radio", my response was in the words of one of great poems of the Last Poets..."die nigger, die nigger, nigger, nigger, die.

    So what does thisall have to do with the subject at hand of sagging, well very simply put, if you do not control those things that have an affect on your life, it can and will be used against you. The ramifcations of our not having power and therefore the control that goes along with that power, leave us subject to all sorts of ills and its un-forseen consequences.
  • South
    THESE RESPONSES ARE WHAT WE NEED TO SEE TO KNOW WHAT OTHERS ARE THINKING...AND WORDS OF WISDOM....I APPRECIATE AND RESPECT ALL THE RESPONSES SO FAR AND ANY OTHERS SO THAT WE CAN SEE MANY OTHER PERSPECTIVES OF THIS EPIDEMIC..........HOLLA BACK....
  • South
    I'm glad to see someone address this demonic trend. What it will take is some positive role models and for someone, like yourself, to continue attacking those black celebrities who forget that many young blacks are emulating this sick trend thinking its cute. Who is teaching these youth a DIFFERENT way? It's one thing to wait for them to do these disgusting things (like the recent video I saw of young black women shaking their butts and simulating sex atop tomb stones!) and then come out in backlash against them. It's quite another to put in place some sort of alternative. There should be forums in every black church, in every black community, every week, to address these dangerous, diabolical trends, and then brainstorming with the youth as to what it would take to help them turn this thing around. These youth--I believe--are hurting and confused. They are really crying out for help and this is the only way they know to do it, by calling attention to themselves in a way they know others will take notice. We cannot respond always with anger, but with sympathy and compassion. I attended many funerals in NY (where I worked for 24 years as a law enforcement officer) of black youth caught in the crossfire of gang shootings, drive-bys, and gun and turf wars. Sitting in the audience I watched and listened as many "good Christians" took the podium and condemned the youth for being in the streets and for not "getting into the church and getting saved". First of all, saved from what? I stood, when I could take these sanctimonious, self-righteous, hypocritical attitudes no longer, and asked "How many of you who belong to this--or any other church in the community--gone out there and spoke with these youth? It's a war out there! While they sit in church evangelizing themselves over and over again, these youth--many of them coming out of dysfunctional homes (homes of drug/alcohol/sexual abuse, or just plain homes with one parent who must work 24/7 to support a household (where the male is often in jail or out of the home, leaving no one home to raise these kids and give them some positive direction) are out there dying on the battlefield! Church was never meant to be a place where congregations sit, endlessly, engaging in so-called 'praise and worship'. It was supposed to be a place where the people would go to ORGANIZE for the ministry, and then GO OUT TO THE SHEEP WHO WERE OUT IN THE PASTURES of this world and help to heal them spiritually. Where is there any instance in the Bible--(for those who claim to emulate Jesus) where Jesus sat in a church and waited for the prospective 'sheep' to COME TO HIM? Where did he tell his followers to establish church BUILDINGS, sit therein, and wait for the 'sheep' to COME TO THEM? "Church"--in Scripture--referred to the PEOPLE, not to the building! Instead, his command to his followers was to "GO CONTINUALLY to the house of (spiritual) Israel". "Go"--is the operative word here. Who is teaching these youth to behave differently? Who is setting the examples? What REALISTIC hope are they getting from the Black community? Who's teaching them the truth about who they are as a people? The school system isn't. The churches aren't. Where are the community centers that are doing this most vital work? ALL SILENT. Then what is there left for them in an element where everything around them represents WHITE progress, white culture, white people prospering, learning their history, etc--while the only thing many of them know of their history is that they were slaves. If these schools won't recruit black teachers to teach these kids their history and give them some self-esteem, then the churches should take up the task. They've got the building. They've got the seats, the space. They've got at least SIX DAYS each week (between Sunday and Wednesday service) where the church is available for use. What's more crucial then the lives and psyche of our youth?? Government funding and grants are available for supplies and books. They've got the not-for-profit status. What's standing in the way of them STANDING IN THE GAP between these youth and the streets? MONEY! In many a church, its the preacher's only concern. Spirituality is supposed to be about treating the WHOLE person, not just their spiritual 'selves'. Whatever affects them or their spirituality is supposed to be of interest to the church as a whole and to the spiritual shepherd! Surely, something like drugs, guns, gangs, premature death, and the diabolical trend engulfing them now is sufficient enough reason to sacrifice the necessary time and effort. With grant money it could even mean jobs for some recruits to do this. All it takes is for the church to CARE ENOUGH: more about these youth (even of their own congregations) and less about their own fame and pockets, and the collection plates! I firmly believe that when these youth see that the adults care more about them and the trend in which they are going, they will begin to care more about themselves. Remember the Scripture where Jesus asks "Is this the time for you to sit in your ivory houses while mine goes to waste?" Well, how do these church folk think God and Jesus feel about their so-called hot and fiery praise and worship sessions while his sheep--for whom Christ died--are out there dying in the streets in gang/drug/turf wars, and/or perishing "for lack of (accurate) knowledge (about God and about themselves) ? Think about it. When we look at it this way, it is not these youth who are failing us. We are failing them.
  • West
    SAGGERS:

    As long as our suppose to be adults continues to not Know the Divine Truth/Reality, advocate, demand, and command our enslaved Ancestors Reparations, we have Divine Spiritual SAGGERS mind-set.

    A prisoner can not free another prisoner, and for us too to have SAGGERS mind-set, we will not be able to free ourselves nor the Children.

    The Black Afrikan family need Divine SEERS, those who know what is and what is not, what to do and when to do it. Divine Realist, not great pretenders. We have had some 400 plus years to become Divine Realist.

    I know what I know
    I do not know what I do not Know
    I (Believe) nothing

    I AM the first student
    I Am still learning

    REPARATIONS NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

    Condemnation without investigation is the Ultimate ignorance. (Einstien)
    Believing is Criminal (Osiris/Ancestors/Common Sense)
  • West
    Education, at the grass-roots level, needs to be stepped up to reach the youth, from the time that they are very young, with alternatives that promote healthy positive self-image. "It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men." ~ Frederick Douglass.

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    Beloved One:

    The above is Divinely True. The majority of our people are Mentally Ill, GED’s to PHD’s. They are Europeanized/white bred inside (both genders). Most of our people are Divinely Spiritually DEAD. So whose going to teach our children?

    If our children, the lost ones turned on us and beat/kick our behinds, they will not be wrong in doing so, after all, we are the ones before them who did not feed the Divine Truth/Reality to them, that is all they are asking and seeking, and yet we before them do not Know the Divine Truth/Reality (within), do not care to know it, or simply do not know. The ones who just do not know I have empathy/sympathy for them because they are waiting for those who do know the Divine Truth/Reality to show up in their lives to teach them.

    Those who have been in the midst of Divine Truth/Reality and still do not do that which is Divinely right, I have no empathy/sympathy for because they are blocking the children from knowing by keeping the Divine Truth/Reality inside of them. They are our enemies.

    However, Society is not to be blamed alone.

    We are all part of the village, tribe, and community, and we all play a role in what happens.

    We are all part of the One Energy in this Universe.

    What our children do reflects on us as parents/adults/people. They are giving us messages/signals, saying we the generations before them have messed up Big Time, look at us (children) now.

    The Black Afrikan Female was the first teacher on this planet. When she got knock of Her Divine right mind throne by the oppressor’s enslavement, she no longer has her once Divine right mind-set. If She did we would not be in the mess our people are in now.

    The Willie Lynch conditioning and programming of the Black Afrika female and male is still engraved in our people mind-set, preventing us from knowing what we once knew and that is Being in our once Divine right mind-set. What type of person do not desire to be in their once Divine right mind-set?

    We must cease with the blame games.

    When the Black Afrikan females return to their once Divine right mind-set, she will then be able to teach her children and the Black Afrikan males the Divine right things to do and say. She the Black Afrikan female holds the Key to our people salvation, liberation, and freedom.

    This system owns our children just like they own us the generation before them and since enslavement. We are all slaves and pawns as long as we continue to suck on the nipples of this System.

    Again, when She the Black Afrikan female returns to her once Divine Goddess right mind-set, the Black Afrikan family will be restored physically and mentally.

    The Black Afrikan female was the main one the oppressors used to destroy the Black Afrikan family, and she must (Action) word, She must Divinely consciously rise if the Black Afrikan family is to be saved.

    It does us no justice to always point out the wrongs we see without a collective Reaction and Solutions. It is in the Action we will get the Divine Justice. This action I speak of is a Divine Spiritual Action mind that does Divine Free Critical Thinking that frees us all.

    If the Black Afrikan females are serious about being serious about what we talk about, then the Proof will be in Her advocacy, demanding, and commanding our enslaved ancestors Reparation Now, so that our people can get up out of all this we constantly complains about among our people. The Black Afrikan female the first to be used to destroy the Black Afrikan family should be on the streets, in the alleys, valleys, mountains, highways yelling from the top of her lungs with her tonsils showing, yelling REPARATIONS NOW, that which will save our people, and we can go anywhere with REPARATION, anywhere in the world away from a System that was designed to abuse and divide, Reparations Now will help us restore the Black Afrikan Family. If we desire to See this I share, She the Black Afrikan female must go deeper into her Psyche DNA to See this I share. Looking at what is being shared, looking only will get us no where consciously.

    When the Black Afrikan females become Divinely serious, we are on our way back to our salvation, liberation, and freedom.

    We rather blame others rather than do Free Critical Thinking that will save us all in these crucial and critical times that is going to get worse.

    What is the benefit of just talking about our people problems if we are not going to Be about what we talk about?

    The most admirable quality in a Black Afrikan female is her Divine inner vision/insight that leads and guides her on how to save the Black Afrikan family Kingdom.

    Religion, Racism and Politics are all in the Black Afrikan people way.

    This is our get out of this mess Card. REPARATIONS NOWWWWWWWWWWW

    A Black Afrikan people who can not See the above are Spiritually DEAD.

    I know what I know
    I do not know what I do not Know
    I (Believe) nothing

    I AM the first student
    I Am still learning

    REPARATIONS NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

    Condemnation without investigation is the Ultimate ignorance. (Einstien)
    Believing is Criminal (Osiris/Ancestors/Common Sense)
    SAVED.IT
  • South
    I see it now with a former co-worker's 13/year-old daughter who is on Facebook with the tart-wear. Her behaviour that the girl displays on FB is horrible and she is using her mother's e-mail address. I contacted this woman, I once called "friend", to warn her. Nothing came back. She alway claimed it would be different in her home. I am saddened at how the girl is portraying herself to the world as "hard candy" and is engaged in stuff way beyond her years and the clothing she wears. She will grow up to be like her mum, an unwed mother by age 17, or her stripper aunties. My former friend will blame society for her daughter and already had when the girl was acting up in grade school. It was always the fault of the teachers rather than looking at her child's behaviour. The kid was atrocious whenever I met my friend for lunch. I just shake my head at what has been allowed for this girl. I see "hard candy" out there. Sad.
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